BRI-SP: The 1977 TV interview with "Véronique"

Part 5: Look who's talking

One of the most compelling pieces of evidence is part of an episode of the talkshow Aujourd’hui Magazine that was broadcast on September 27^th, 1977, on the French national channel Antenne 2. The program is archived and a short excerpt is available on the website of the Institut National de l’Audiovisuel (INA). The whole segment, but filmed with a phone while the segment plays on a computer screen (probably in an archive where it was allowed to view the material but not download it), is available here.

The segment is an interview with two transsexual young women, Martine and “Véronique”. It is explained that Véronique is not her real name and that this woman wants to stay anonymous during the interview. She is shown only as a silhouette with backlighting, in a darker area of the studio, which makes it obviously very hard to see facial features. What we can see in the profile, is that the chin is very much placed like that of Brigitte Macron (a bit of an overbite), and Veronique’s gestures resemble those of Brigitte a lot. Also the way of expressing her thoughts, the intellectual, almost convoluted way of saying things, with lots of literary words and references to artistic history, is very similar to that of Brigitte Macron.

But the voice is what is important here. Brigitte Macron has a very specific way of speaking, with a thick S and a particular intonation and pronunciation. The woman in the interview who is called Véronique speaks in the exact same way.
IGMAudio, a company in Brussels, Belgium, ran the voices through a voice comparison software called Audacity, and concluded that the voices are one and the same, albeit one a lot older than the other.
Pressibus has asked ChatGTP to compare the voices, and the result was the same: there’s a little difference which can be explained by an age difference of 46 years.
The also received an email from a follower who had done a comparison by combining results of different speech software, and reached the exact same conclusion. Extreme similarities except for the height of the voice, which changes naturally with ageing.

Xavier Poussard has noted that Véronique is vague in her answers in the interview, but that the fact that she strongly points out the legal obstacles to have official adjustment of identity hints at Jean-Michel/Brigitte using this interview to push for changes in French transgender legislation.